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7A_Bjorn



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Allies are going to move a new bg into Abbaye I think this turn so our buron to abbaye move won't work as well. We'll have small deploy and they will start close to us.

I think we should stick with the other plan.

Strat moves:

I.6 Lehr to Bretteville - use recon cars, inf, mortars to find and kill his at guns. Get some ground at least in the northern town. Ride them down and use their fear of panthers to your advantage!!! Have fun with this one. We'll move in 21 panzer in next turn.

Hottot: Attack put pressure on them and take as much ground as possible. We want to clear them soon so we can relieve and give supply to lingevers.

Lingevers: Try to hold the west vl panzermayer captured. If we clear hottot we can get supply from there. But mainly hold the other vl at all costs.

Abbaye: I think they will move a new bg in to expand their deploy. Attack if u can if not, defend

Troarn: Full attack, disband them with heavy panzer and inf attack.

Buron: defend what we have especially exit vl to west.

Caen: Put arty here. stay put let them come to us. Disband if they do, unless you would lose panthers. Keep them contained.

21 Pz to Cristot

192 pz reg in bourgebous - move to cagny.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like your moves Bjorn.
I just want to propose another option. I want to exploit there moves towards cean and to try and cut there bg off.

if we make these moves, the situation could be like this:


and the deploy for 21 Pz.Div on abbey will be:

we take the abbey and sneak towards the brettvile exit vl and to the lebbisy woods exit vl.

of we disband them immediatly in cean we have the buron bg and abbey BG`s back in supply.

this is just a thought, trying to make the most of the situation Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

good thought but they will move a bg into lebisey and we will possibly be cut from supply.

Stay with the moves but keep the ideas coming!! Thanks for helping - sometimes nobody helps with strat ideas. Maybe next time we can make you one of the strat commanders.

Lets kick some ass this turn.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know how 'Die Engländer' plays yet, so I can't come with any good ideas, but to be the voice of the fanatics: -Shouldn't we try to attack more? Confused

I get my Jagdpanther shot to pieces by a Humber with a puny 37mm, but with the superior tanks and Panzermayer and Bjorn as commanders I think we can do it. (and if there's a defensive battle or two over, I can take them... That's something I almost can handle. Wink )
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reinforcements june 24





as you can see the 2./26 Reg. 12 SS Pz.Div and 858 Reg. 346 Infan.Div
plus 4 mortar support.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strat move ideas June 24th AM:

II 26 SS from Hill 112 Orne to Hill 112 Baron

SS inf from juvigny to Tourville

21 pz on Cristot stays put (defend and disband if they attack)

Lehr panther bg stays put (defend and disband if they attack)

Buron SS tiger bg to hermanville won't work we don't get supply to tigers (been out of supply too long I guess) so just hold on in Buron maybe we get lucky and disband them in abbaye this time - will be hard if they move in new bg abbaye this turn.

Troarn - full assault since his out of supply and I want him disbanded if possible. If you are losing panzers and can't do it, pull back until next time. But if you are winning, finish him off.

Mortar Support: Troarn, Bretteville, Lingevers, Tilly

Other Objectives:

Hottot: try to disband him. If you can go around his immobile tanks and take the vls do so. If u have to face the tanks kill his inf then shrek the tanks, move in tank destroyers to finish them off. they will focus their defense on the chruch in west and their supply vl in east. Might be easiest to take the other vls first and they will panic and rush men to the vl in east.

Tilly - try to disband him. Use a lot of tanks. Find his tanks with inf recon, mortar barrage them, then move in tanks/shreks and finish him off. Retake the vl to lingevers and hold our supply vls and his supply vl to east at a minimum. With him out of supply we should be on the offense though.

Lingevers: hold at all costs.

Bretteville: defend and disband anyone that comes. Drop arty on his deploy if he attacks. Then attack with everything try to keep panthers alive of course.

Caen: Try to disband him. He is weak around his supply vl. If not just contain him and don't let him cross either bridge. Watch out for 6 pounders and piats in the buildings he will be waiting for your panthers.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds good Sir, even more offensive than what I was thinking about. Cool

Don't know how you usually do, but should we really use all our mortar-support in the am-turn? Question
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

only if we need it. Save for pm turn if during the battle its not needed.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bjorn for the most part i agree with your moves and your assignment of the mortar support. but i would like to make some small changes.

Lingevres: remove the old jagdpanzer and put in a new, it could have petrol (cc5 bug)
the same for the ss on buron. we have now 3 tigers there, all of them out of petrol, i suggest to delete the 2 les experianced and morale tigers and put in two new tigers so we have one vet tiger to defend and we could have 2 tiger with petrol so we can we can make a small atack.

on hottot, troarn, bretteville, cean, abbey, tilly i agree with you, for the most part try to atack and disband them.

on colombelles i think we can defend and just hold what we got.

the ss from hill 112 to maltot and the ss from juvigny to cristot and next strat.move mabey carp.airfield.

i am not shure if we should use our 21 Pz.Div BG to atack there position on Carp.airfield. i have checked there BG (6 wolverines, a few shermans, 5 6pdr and a lot of PIAT`s) and our BG (around 10 Pz.IV and a few old panzers) and our deploy and i dont like what i see, they have so many places to hide there armor and so many houses and shelters to put in ther ATG and PIAT`s, its a recipie for disaster. I think we should hold the 21 Pz.Div BG in support of the Panther Lehr BG. Let them make the move (and if they stay on carp.airfield thats fine), if they atack north they will run into 21 Pz.Div, of they go towards villers bocage we get them in a meeting engagement and if they go to hill 112 we get them with our SS moving towards maltot.

in short. no atack on carp. airfield please.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They can still move to Eterville, isn't it better to attack the airfield in order to keep them there and attack with one of the SS-infantry BG's in the pm-turn with the ultimate goal of disbanding them in a few turns?

We (or rather, 'you guys'... Wink) don't have to do an all out attack with the 21st panzer, just move in and keep some ground so they can't move this turn.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they move to eterville, then that bg will die for nothing and i dont think they will let that happen. its better from the allies to stay on Carp.airfield because they can atack in the back of abbey, cean or bretteville and for the moment them staying on carp.airfield wont restrict our moves.
I just do not want to waste Panzers u know and when we get the Panther Bg from 2 Pz.Div next day we will have enough firepower to atack.

my priority is to hold lingevres, disband on cean, tilly, mabey bretteville (if they atack our Panther BG) and troarn
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, good point. Agree that it's a bad idea to waste the panzers.

Lets fight about what BG gets the honour of disbanding them later... Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orders:

Try hard to disband them on Cagny, Troarn, and Bretteville. We have good troops so we should be able to do the job.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fellow Commander`s

the allied made stupid moves, they dident count on our restraint and back-up BG`s in our hinterland.
We must kill the infantry BG in bretteville. they dont have any armor but they do got 4 17Pdr`s, 10 PIAT groups and 4 6Pdr`s. i think they will put a shit load of ATG in the houses, with a tight defense against infantry. i think we just need to storm his ass from one side that gives the best cover to advance and the support of the panthers. we must place a small team of units in the west (trainstation) to hold and give support, a smal team to atack the vl in the town with long range panthers giving fire support immediatly and just putting rounds in houses and a big team in the east with a lot of panther support, spraying everything and infantry sneaking.

the armor BG on cagney is out of supply, i think they will still use a lot of tanks for support.

the Troarn airborne BG is not that strong, i thought 2 shermans and a few ATG, we will need to overpower them here also. it will be very hard because of the AB troopers and there strong deploy zone.

Tilly we have a good chance te disband them if we use our Pz.IV, infantry and Tiger combinded.

Hottot will be difficult, move slowly towards all the VL`s

Lingevres i think we need to make a small atack to expand our deploy.

Cean atack and get and hold the VL`s, we are very close.

Abbey. just play it cool and try to shot them out of there

Collembeles we just defend and let them run into our ATG`s and mg42`s.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They have a new bg on Caen, same deploy. Probably full of tanks.

Follow Panzermayer's orders above.

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